1 00:00:04,820 --> 00:00:02,750 I have found though that I produce this 2 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:04,830 a quarterly publication called the lucid 3 00:00:10,430 --> 00:00:07,529 dream exchange which anyone can get at 4 00:00:12,530 --> 00:00:10,440 dreaming lucid calm but some of it some 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:12,540 very good lucid dreamers are insomniac 6 00:00:16,010 --> 00:00:14,610 seeeeee they become awake and they're 7 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:16,020 awake for two hours and then they go 8 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:17,340 back to sleep and they have lucid dreams 9 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:19,680 but but I don't know about the effect of 10 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:43,880 27 11 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:47,760 who are active losing viewers likely to 12 00:00:58,009 --> 00:00:55,819 okay to your first question I think the 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:00:58,019 answer is is that when you're 14 00:01:02,689 --> 00:01:00,570 consciously aware if you think about it 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:02,699 you can seek out the muse you can seek 16 00:01:07,130 --> 00:01:04,290 out the information you don't have to 17 00:01:08,749 --> 00:01:07,140 wait around for it to occur and so so 18 00:01:11,770 --> 00:01:08,759 that's that's kind of the first answer 19 00:01:14,630 --> 00:01:11,780 the second answer is the prevalence is 20 00:01:16,580 --> 00:01:14,640 determined by the lucid dreamers mindset 21 00:01:18,529 --> 00:01:16,590 there's a lot of excellent lucid 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:18,539 dreamers who would never go looking for 23 00:01:23,210 --> 00:01:20,250 precognitive information because why 24 00:01:25,399 --> 00:01:23,220 should you it doesn't exist or why 25 00:01:26,990 --> 00:01:25,409 should you try to heal another you can't 26 00:01:29,090 --> 00:01:27,000 you know it's all right occurring in 27 00:01:32,540 --> 00:01:29,100 your mind and so are in your head or 28 00:01:34,730 --> 00:01:32,550 your brain and and so so so you can't 29 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:34,740 really correlate those things the people 30 00:01:41,980 --> 00:01:36,060 who go in search of it are the people 31 00:01:47,630 --> 00:01:45,399 very recent talk my only concern is 32 00:01:49,430 --> 00:01:47,640 trying to go out a kind of inference I 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:49,440 think you were drawing from bill Carson 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:50,970 observer or more defenses to 35 00:01:56,510 --> 00:01:54,330 consciousness work I think it's very 36 00:01:59,929 --> 00:01:56,520 questionable to argue that because we 37 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:59,939 now find something in pieces that those 38 00:02:02,899 --> 00:02:01,920 pieces correspond to pre-existing or 39 00:02:04,940 --> 00:02:02,909 natural elements 40 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:04,950 thing in my work on dissociation is what 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:13,170 I call the house I think you'll see that 42 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:15,090 I make a relatively important case and 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:17,209 here in this quote by Carl Jung 44 00:02:22,339 --> 00:02:19,170 basically there's another quote before 45 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:22,349 this where he says that to show and 46 00:02:27,979 --> 00:02:24,510 inner self it would have to have these 47 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:27,989 capabilities and in in my lucid dreaming 48 00:02:34,220 --> 00:02:31,080 studies I show that when I asked that 49 00:02:37,130 --> 00:02:34,230 was responsive awareness hey show me 50 00:02:39,050 --> 00:02:37,140 something I should see or whatever it 51 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:39,060 meets all the qualifications that you 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:41,519 asked for and so basically that's why i 53 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:43,290 call my book lucid dreaming gateway to 54 00:02:47,330 --> 00:02:45,329 the inner self I think you're we're 55 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:47,340 actually in contact with this other 56 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:49,980 awareness at this different layer of 57 00:03:04,300 --> 00:02:51,930 self i'm going to call it inner self 58 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:04,310 just because i have to call something a 59 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:07,739 chapter on mutual dreaming and and i 60 00:03:13,069 --> 00:03:09,599 just want to tell you a story if you 61 00:03:16,190 --> 00:03:13,079 don't mind just real quick okay I became 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:16,200 consciously aware i saw a dream figure 63 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:17,730 enter the dream but it looks like on my 64 00:03:22,009 --> 00:03:20,040 friend MO who do I know so I went up to 65 00:03:24,460 --> 00:03:22,019 her and I go mow this is a dream do you 66 00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:24,470 realize we're dreaming and she has this 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:26,549 lesson lucid dreamers call it the 68 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:29,130 drunken sailor effect because they can't 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:30,720 focus and they're kind of going like 70 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:32,370 this and I go mo do you realize we're 71 00:03:36,289 --> 00:03:34,560 dreaming I picked her up and started a 72 00:03:37,789 --> 00:03:36,299 levitating and I go see well meditating 73 00:03:39,289 --> 00:03:37,799 this must be a dream then I got 74 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:39,299 frustrated because it's obvious she 75 00:03:42,740 --> 00:03:41,130 wasn't where i put a peace sign in her 76 00:03:44,089 --> 00:03:42,750 face and I say no whenever you see this 77 00:03:46,099 --> 00:03:44,099 peace sign you can become consciously 78 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:46,109 aware you see that anyway four months 79 00:03:50,150 --> 00:03:48,000 later I get together with no we have 80 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:50,160 lunch in San Francisco she comes walking 81 00:03:55,339 --> 00:03:52,319 up to me as I'm standing there waiting 82 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:55,349 for her if he goes just like I don't 83 00:03:59,399 --> 00:03:56,970 know why are you doing that she goes I